tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post1945667296796524029..comments2024-03-03T06:01:35.285-05:00Comments on Shadow of the Stadium: Getting to the Bottom of What Stu Sternberg Really Said This Week in NashvilleUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-6298491904597886162015-12-24T10:38:36.738-05:002015-12-24T10:38:36.738-05:00You make a good point Rick, but it's not absur...You make a good point Rick, but it's not absurd or baseless...there are clear correlations between payroll and on-field success. The more teams spend, the bigger their margin of error and the better their chances for success.<br /><br />The Rays have defied the odds for years - and they may continue to - but if there is no correlation whatsoever, there is no need whatsoever for a new stadium or its new revenues.Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-77652645281763255722015-12-22T18:36:23.470-05:002015-12-22T18:36:23.470-05:00It is an absurd, baseless proposition that choosin...It is an absurd, baseless proposition that choosing to make less profit by spending more on players will:<br />A. Improve onfield performance (from 2008 thru 2013, the Rays spent less per win than any team in major sports, yet were the second most winningest team in MLB)<br />B. Improve attendance or future revenue streams.<br /><br />Rick Kaczmareknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-27064818189025412622015-12-15T20:24:46.866-05:002015-12-15T20:24:46.866-05:00You can be sure all of us have thought about that,...You can be sure all of us have thought about that, but teams and TV networks are private corporations.Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-87867682942795820622015-12-11T15:58:26.257-05:002015-12-11T15:58:26.257-05:00Nice reposts, did you think of that all by yoursel...Nice reposts, did you think of that all by yourself? lolAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17525411555797614762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-74087798185036079082015-12-11T11:11:22.156-05:002015-12-11T11:11:22.156-05:00Or talking to the person(s) from Sports Business D...Or talking to the person(s) from Sports Business Daily that had the 2010 report that the deal ended in 2016? If I had a local radio show, I'd be trying to get them on for an interview. If I had a blog and was an expert on Rays finances, I'd talk with them - or at least try - and then share the outcome with my peeps. But I guess it's more congruent with this blog's storyline to blame the Rays organization for not correcting the incorrect information you've been reporting for 6 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-53900709221829860052015-12-11T10:23:19.877-05:002015-12-11T10:23:19.877-05:00This has probably already been thought about, but ...This has probably already been thought about, but is there some FOIA hook to get a hold of that TV deal? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-76917988224494132772015-12-11T10:17:30.078-05:002015-12-11T10:17:30.078-05:00Unless that owner is stating those facts in prepar...Unless that owner is stating those facts in preparation for asking me to hand him $700M. Then they are more than just stating the obvious facts. Then it's part of a sales strategy. Of finding a way to ask a group of people poorer than you to give you $700M. At least he is doing a little bit of it in public this time, that piece of sh*t huckster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-70278103985759568872015-12-11T09:21:21.589-05:002015-12-11T09:21:21.589-05:00Frankly, the expected huge TV deal was really one ...Frankly, the expected huge TV deal was really one of the only positives of this franchise right now. If not for the Rays' great TV ratings, you'd have a good argument that the region doesn't care about the team. Either way, Stu doesn't strike me as the type who is going to increase payroll and save for a shiny new park, while fewer folks come to games. And comments like his certainly aren't going to help matters. To summarize, we have an owner not willing to increase payroll, fans that are staying home, no pitch perfect location, and an ironclad lease. Nobody willing to commit to anything. I imagine it's hard for even die-hards to get excited about this brand right now. Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-90944564881098846562015-12-10T22:39:05.808-05:002015-12-10T22:39:05.808-05:00JP says listen to him and Ron at noon on Fri. He&#...JP says listen to him and Ron at noon on Fri. He'll at least give the best answer available. Can't be worse than crickets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-39206925729973629272015-12-10T19:09:42.250-05:002015-12-10T19:09:42.250-05:00He could definitely chose to make less profit and ...He could definitely chose to make less profit and spend more on salary...Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-49641128435052205332015-12-10T19:09:14.714-05:002015-12-10T19:09:14.714-05:00That's a great idea. I think you stand a much ...That's a great idea. I think you stand a much better chance at finding out a private business contract than professionals who are experts at things like sports business and public records!Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-76190902396810335872015-12-10T18:03:28.600-05:002015-12-10T18:03:28.600-05:00The story is the TV deal. Does it expire in 2016 o...The story is the TV deal. Does it expire in 2016 or not? I'm about to become a reporter myself if none of the local hacks can get a darn answer to this simple question that has huge ramifications.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-1563931963233382052015-12-10T17:58:08.297-05:002015-12-10T17:58:08.297-05:00When Sternberg or anyone from the Rays is asked by...When Sternberg or anyone from the Rays is asked by a sports writer covering the team for sports fans to read his column, should Sternberg say "no comment" when asked why his team isn't in play for any splash offseason aquisitions? Would that make everyone feel better? Are we so sensitive about not supporting our home team that we get all bent out of shape when the local team owner simply verbalizes what everyone in the free world already knows? Then we call him a whiner? I guess if it makes us feel better, we have that right. To me, this was a non-story and us whining about him stating facts that we all agree with, is weird.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-64007387989960347662015-12-10T15:33:30.191-05:002015-12-10T15:33:30.191-05:00Unfortunately, anything happening in Montreal as i...Unfortunately, anything happening in Montreal as it relates to an MLB team, is nothing more than a pipe dream. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-73663887730708072902015-12-10T15:23:54.712-05:002015-12-10T15:23:54.712-05:00If Sternberg needs more money to solve his 'pr...If Sternberg needs more money to solve his 'problem' more MLB revenue sharing is the answer. He should be pleading his case to Manfred, and not whining in public.scott myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02612909222047091812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-78408661975763283512015-12-10T12:53:12.450-05:002015-12-10T12:53:12.450-05:00I don't hear Sternberg saying he's poor, h...I don't hear Sternberg saying he's poor, he's losing money, he's not happy with his investment, or anything similar. I do hear him consistently say that it is becoming harder and harder to compete with other baseball teams due to the discrepancy in revenue. These are two completely different things. I don't think anyone can argue with his point about the team's below average revenues. When he's asked about his teams chances of winning games in 2016 and moves they'll make this offseason - how can he answer these questions without mentioning the elephant in the room?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-2465253345651588142015-12-10T12:46:38.523-05:002015-12-10T12:46:38.523-05:00On Mad Dog Unleashed earlier this week, Sternberg ...On Mad Dog Unleashed earlier this week, Sternberg stated that the Rays are "viable". I also have every reason to believe that the Rays turn a profit. Question is what kind of profit?<br /><br />Sternberg possesses a $600M asset and he wants an annual return on this asset just like a Fortune 500 corporation - 13-15%. Doing the math, that works out to $70-100M per year in profit. I am sure he's not getting that and he would not give a rat's you know what where he plays. Put yourself in his shoes, Sternberg's "we are poor" speech is justified. Poor return on a $600M investment, shines a bright light on the relocation to Montreal.<br /><br /><br /><br />Mad Dog also brought up the Montreal subject as well as the "iron close lease" at the Trop and Sternberg side-stepped both topics and offered no clear response.<br /><br />Preparation in Montreal to replace the Champlain Bridge, including a light rail has started. $5B in public infrastructure money approved. Guess what? The LRS will pass right by an empty parcel of waterfront land big enough for a baseball stadium (not the old Children's Hospital site as one developer hopes for).<br /><br />TV Deal? You already know about Bell Media and how they are flush with cash. No need to repeat.<br /><br />Wake up and smell the bagels, the Rays are done in Tampa / St Pete.Giuseppenoreply@blogger.com