tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post5131890899510544218..comments2024-03-03T06:01:35.285-05:00Comments on Shadow of the Stadium: Kriseman Wants Tropicana Field 2.0 in St. PeteUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-48795367665325592092015-07-05T17:28:51.914-04:002015-07-05T17:28:51.914-04:00That's a brilliant suggestion, Noah!
So, any...That's a brilliant suggestion, Noah! <br /><br />So, any other tidbits on the stadium discussions for the Rays?Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-72561683374085537452015-07-05T17:17:50.019-04:002015-07-05T17:17:50.019-04:00You know, it would be a lot easier to follow every...You know, it would be a lot easier to follow everyone's threads if you would avoid Anonymous posts....Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-86069473714683798522015-07-05T15:24:10.636-04:002015-07-05T15:24:10.636-04:00While 2017 would be the perfect year for baseball&...While 2017 would be the perfect year for baseball's return to Montreal ~ helping celebrate Montreal's 375th Anniversary, I think it's not far-fetched to anticipate a team by 2018 in Montreal and a new stadium ready by 2020... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-23084286316216077452015-07-05T11:34:56.950-04:002015-07-05T11:34:56.950-04:00Montreal are receiving calls from MLB owners these...Montreal are receiving calls from MLB owners these days (at least 10 teams last year), not the opposite.<br /><br />Rays vs Cleveland could be an interesting match, considering that with 40 000 fans per game (maybe more), that's a lot of $$$ for those two teams, especially in end of June.<br /><br />Stay tuned!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-40996634927960271562015-07-05T10:09:50.736-04:002015-07-05T10:09:50.736-04:00There's also talk about regular season games b...There's also talk about regular season games being played in Montreal next year. My guess for teams would be BoSox, A's, Rays (as visitors only), Jays, O's and Mets....possibly ChiSox<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-38129499017421722912015-07-05T10:00:15.594-04:002015-07-05T10:00:15.594-04:00Thanks for the link. #7 And Red Sox in MTL next sp...Thanks for the link. #7 And Red Sox in MTL next spring? Question is against the Jays or another team?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-22195778039547672362015-07-05T05:53:30.324-04:002015-07-05T05:53:30.324-04:008. Speaking of Montreal, the city is getting its f...8. Speaking of Montreal, the city is getting its financial plan together for plans for a downtown ballpark. With Tampa Bay attendance getting worse by the year and Oakland’s ballpark situation also in limbo, Montreal may have a good shot at a relocated team.<br /><br />https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/04/these-stars-deserve-spot-this-year-showcase/N6QFSQpUzfSDXNAqdf1yCN/story.html#Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-2905304308273011062015-07-05T04:39:27.969-04:002015-07-05T04:39:27.969-04:00Maybe TPA to YUL will be more of an incentive to t...Maybe TPA to YUL will be more of an incentive to travel.... Mind you, they'll need passports for that and we all know how many folks in the US have those...nah, TV it is. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-23359329889290046702015-07-04T21:34:56.272-04:002015-07-04T21:34:56.272-04:00If only the team could get more "Tampa folks&...If only the team could get more "Tampa folks" to travel to St. Petersburg to watch their team play live and in person. If that were the case we might not be having this debate.Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-33034353752564736032015-07-04T15:47:39.994-04:002015-07-04T15:47:39.994-04:00The TV contract will follow them to Montreal - esp...The TV contract will follow them to Montreal - especially since everyone knows that the Tampa folks will still be watching them - no change there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-68705270390473508482015-07-04T12:06:07.760-04:002015-07-04T12:06:07.760-04:00and don't call me Shirley :Pand don't call me Shirley :PMattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-21091664081243903752015-07-04T12:04:14.125-04:002015-07-04T12:04:14.125-04:00If the Rays were to move, surely in addition to pa...If the Rays were to move, surely in addition to paying out the lease at the Trop, would they also have to pay out their TV contract? Surely that would be worth a bit as well? Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-55830732845079815712015-07-03T23:11:10.580-04:002015-07-03T23:11:10.580-04:00The compensation should be based on current attend...The compensation should be based on current attendance figures and it's impact - nothing more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-42713478768116909352015-07-03T22:32:48.718-04:002015-07-03T22:32:48.718-04:00Despite my thoughts on the future of baseball in S...Despite my thoughts on the future of baseball in St. Petersburg I do feel the Rays owe the city "exit compensation". The northerners (current ownership group) agreed to operate the franchise under the terms of the current lease and should be held to those terms. No matter what happens they're going to make money. Despite the sad state of attendance the value of the franchise has increased and only will be more valuable as local and national TV rights $$$$ continue to increase. I'm not sure when the current local contract expires but based on ratings it's a safe guess Rays management is already looking at a huge increase in revenue when their broadcast contracts are up for bid or renewal.,Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-34074169290709882892015-07-03T10:04:04.227-04:002015-07-03T10:04:04.227-04:00Nurse is a proponent of redeveloping the downtown ...Nurse is a proponent of redeveloping the downtown land into something other than baseball.<br />Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-70209314927194096372015-07-03T09:57:16.756-04:002015-07-03T09:57:16.756-04:00And that's the issue - the "exit compensa...And that's the issue - the "exit compensation" - City Council think they are entitled to the moon and more! They need to do what is right and just them go!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-4560796871829356772015-07-03T09:38:33.747-04:002015-07-03T09:38:33.747-04:00St-Pete council must send the message that the Tro...St-Pete council must send the message that the Trop. site is open for development. But to do so, a MOU must be signed with an exit compensation for the city. And that means St-Pete must be ready to let the Rays go anywhere, not only in TB region.<br /><br />Promoters/investors will not be excited about the site until then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-58817949867468650062015-07-03T08:51:35.082-04:002015-07-03T08:51:35.082-04:00Jeff - I think the exit will be considerably soone...Jeff - I think the exit will be considerably sooner than 2027! It has to be. For the Rays' sake but more importantly for St Pete's sake...They stand to make a lot more money thru redeveloping the site than forcing the Rays to stay Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-19481204126396244372015-07-02T21:13:15.130-04:002015-07-02T21:13:15.130-04:00Even when there is more fans at the Trop. (like th...Even when there is more fans at the Trop. (like this afternoon against the Indians), good play from the Indians got more OH! and AH! than the ones from the Rays.<br /><br />At least, TB is getting some tourists for Rays games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-30487247814201123982015-07-02T19:52:16.328-04:002015-07-02T19:52:16.328-04:00The idea that this team will be playing in St. Pet...The idea that this team will be playing in St. Petersburg after their lease at Tropicana Field expires is LAUGHABLE. The end is near no matter what the Mayor or City Council feeds to the press. Florida hasn't proven itself as anything more than a spring training state and there's nothing to suggest that will change. A stadium at the current dog track site won't eliminate the problem of bridges separating counties. Build it in Pinellas County and they still won't come.Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-75067743751512457862015-07-02T11:00:02.662-04:002015-07-02T11:00:02.662-04:00Opposes government healthcare for poor people, sup...Opposes government healthcare for poor people, supports government stadiums for rich people. #lolchamber Noticeably absent: how any of this will change attendance. Smartly, no one wants to be on record making predictions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-47188118142428480852015-07-02T09:41:39.811-04:002015-07-02T09:41:39.811-04:00I've got a place in Clearwater - and have a ha...I've got a place in Clearwater - and have a half season ticket package - the first post above is pretty spot regarding locations - it's either at the dumps, at the track or stay put - none of which are convenient, easy to develop or even worthy of drawing after the home opener. Trop is relatively convenient - to a degree, but it's not ideal and the immediate area is pitiful. The highways are a mess.<br /><br />As much as I like the Rays, it's sad to see an empty stadium.<br /><br />I went to see the Expos several times in Montreal - and they about 20,000 people one weekend and the noise and enthusiasm they displayed was better than any other park I have been too filled at twice as many fans.... part acoustics of the Olympic Stadium and all crowd - amazing! <br /><br />I don't really think there's any *reasonable* location for a new stadium in the area that will draw the fans on a regular basis - any location will require major marking and major road work to make it work. And it would have to be convenient enough for folks from both Pinellas and Hillsborough Counties...<br /><br />Regardless of location, I just don't see this working out long term. A move is inevitable. Rather they go sooner rather than later - so they can get a decent stadium in Montreal and the Trop can reap the benefits of redevelopment asap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-18350001778445225982015-07-02T09:02:00.051-04:002015-07-02T09:02:00.051-04:00I agree that we could all do without the name call...I agree that we could all do without the name calling. What I meant was that I doubt "low class guy" is from Montreal, as suggested above, as he's been posting on here long before any Rays to Montreal rumors surfaced. <br /><br />Either way, I'm not thrilled by any of the suggested areas for a new stadium, in the sense that I can't see them helping attendance in the long term. Are there any locals that see any of these spots as a better alternative to the Trop site, or do you think that the Mayor is grasping at straws? Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-28294695588167250882015-07-02T08:29:04.865-04:002015-07-02T08:29:04.865-04:00That "low-class" comment was just being ...That "low-class" comment was just being mean-spirited.<br /><br />Having said that, Rays fans, in particular those who do not attend the games are just cheapos and irrelevant to this stadium discussion.... They may contribute to good TV revenues and ratings but that will NOT justify building a stadium. A TV studio with the illusion of a new ball park maybe... but not a new stadium! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-30201273853268601102015-07-02T08:23:52.838-04:002015-07-02T08:23:52.838-04:00To be fair, the "St Pete is low class" g...To be fair, the "St Pete is low class" guy has been here longer than the Montreal rumors. Mattnoreply@blogger.com