tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post8860126728493063390..comments2024-03-03T06:01:35.285-05:00Comments on Shadow of the Stadium: All the Geeky Math on a Possible Tampa Stadium (So Far)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-86588813423462996872013-08-13T08:18:49.885-04:002013-08-13T08:18:49.885-04:00MLB players are not allowed to hit the open market...MLB players are not allowed to hit the open market until they've been in the majors at least 6 years. That is in every player's contract.<br /><br />If David Price decided right now he wasn't getting paid enough, there is absolutely nothing he can do about it except ask politely to renegotiate.Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-706697556922713092013-08-12T17:38:18.027-04:002013-08-12T17:38:18.027-04:00AND I might not "count" on it, but could...AND I might not "count" on it, but couldn't they to save millions? AND I'm not "count(ing) on getting many answers to these questions", if I'm counting on you to "investigate" these questions as a "investigator"! To believe the Rays "hadn't start looking into" answering these type of questions is naive, we're talking about a team that has scouts at other teams farm leagues just in case they have to trade a star players for prospects to one of those teams. But, newsflash! These questions don't need answers from the Rays, it's not like they have to get these answers from a know-it-all troll in the baseball of the Trop that only talks to Stu! These answers can be answered by independent businesses & researchers. I could dedicate my time to finding these things out, BUT I'm a regular Joe w/ limited resources & time, your the "investigative reporter" that decided to put himself in limelight of this stadium issue! So as a "investigative reporter", maybe be one, which is what I been trying figure out about this blog for a year! Just think, "Stu: we we where going to do that the original way, but after seeing how Noah discovered doing it a creatively way that will save us about $20 million, which is $20 less we had to ask the city of Tampa!"...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17525411555797614762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-5945111714819844662013-08-12T17:15:11.694-04:002013-08-12T17:15:11.694-04:00Wayda do what you do best NO'ah, shying away f...Wayda do what you do best NO'ah, shying away from facts, and diverting the comment to something different. David Price gets arbitration to make more if he plays better, just like the Rays can payout future years to get out of their deal without knowing if a hurricane blows through cancels baseball in TB for 2 years that they would of had to pay if they didn't neg. a buyout. SO what's your point? Again, most stadium cost around $500 mill., so why should we think the Rays that "do more with less" would cost more for a new ballpark OR are you just going against positive facts because you hate the Rays & love your Red Sux...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17525411555797614762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-13673901833937165082013-08-12T16:58:14.054-04:002013-08-12T16:58:14.054-04:00If stadium contracts were like player contracts, t...If stadium contracts were like player contracts, the Rays would be stuck at the Trop until they could re-negotiate....just like David Price is stuck making a low salary until he re-negotiated.<br /><br />The Rays not only have a chance to re-negotiate with St. Pete (if they offered them enough to buyout), but they also have a chance to re-negotiate their paltry television rights.Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-21765107994294319992013-08-12T16:50:50.246-04:002013-08-12T16:50:50.246-04:00Wayda make assumption & comment without really...Wayda make assumption & comment without really knowing like most people. Like most sports contracts, they're generally determined based on the average of what other players like you & at your position are making. So applying the same concept for MLB stadiums with retractable roofs would put Hillsborough's opinion "in the ballpark" numbers wise. In "2013 dollars", Chase Field in AZ cost $500 mill., Miller Park in WI cost $520 mill., Minute Maid Park cost only $333 mill., Marlins Park cost $630 mill., and Safeco Park in WA cost over $700 which means the NEW Trop will probably cost about $450, and will one of the nicest knowing how the Rays do things...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17525411555797614762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-4378201306224386882013-08-12T12:18:13.825-04:002013-08-12T12:18:13.825-04:00$600m won't even come close to the real world ...$600m won't even come close to the real world cost that will be closer to $1b,<br />this is the typical lowballing of actual cost that will balloon as soon as the first sterling silver shovel hits the ground.<br />"Well we gotta finish the project since it's started, so pay up taxpayers..."<br />This has happened in much more sophisticated places than Tampa, so just wait for it.PJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-87758866629221603432013-08-11T17:48:25.469-04:002013-08-11T17:48:25.469-04:00And BaseballNut, I honestly don't know. But p...And BaseballNut, I honestly don't know. But probably, yes, somewhere.Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-27104744167358974782013-08-11T17:47:22.886-04:002013-08-11T17:47:22.886-04:00Don't count on recycling much from the Trop.
...Don't count on recycling much from the Trop.<br /><br />And don't count on getting many answers to these questions - when we last asked the Rays these things, they said they hadn't started looking into them yet "because there's no point."Noah Pranskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341946902034828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-61834828562177589552013-08-11T04:19:22.059-04:002013-08-11T04:19:22.059-04:00I think a tampa location would be me more exciting...I think a tampa location would be me more exciting by channelside it would hopefully create more business to come such restaurants bars shopping and other entertainment venues. Be by the waterfromt is a big plus. Im sure they will find a way to make it work.BaseballNuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18148656758752200131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-54944295960639371382013-08-10T23:29:12.653-04:002013-08-10T23:29:12.653-04:00Since we're asking NO'ah questions, my que...Since we're asking NO'ah questions, my questions are can they actually take stuff out of the Trop & use'em in the new park, if so, how much could they save, AND what's the lowest cost on building some sort of roof, how much more could the Rays charge for better luxury boxes, how much would hosting a All-Star game cover for building the building, will Channelside be the "LA Live" they hope it could become, how many X's more people will there be living within a "30 min. drive" of Channelside by 2025, how much could they fetch for a TV deal & naming rights & advertising @ the new park, etc.???? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17525411555797614762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-2164588874431482712013-08-10T23:16:20.717-04:002013-08-10T23:16:20.717-04:00Good job RE-reporting news oppose to actually doin...Good job RE-reporting news oppose to actually doing some investigating! Though keep keeping on fighting the good fight, I'm sure your you'll find something someone else wrote that will you crack the code... lol<br />They say the mind & talent is terrible thing to waste, so is resources...<br />And to (Baseballnut), tells us what YOU think! Know though where there's smoke there's usually fire...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17525411555797614762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1021348172235346593.post-65543531125410798362013-08-10T17:23:57.527-04:002013-08-10T17:23:57.527-04:00Noah do you think they will get a new stadium even...Noah do you think they will get a new stadium eventually in the tampa bay area?BaseballNuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18148656758752200131noreply@blogger.com